Minutes of the General Meeting held on 5 July 2000, at The National Motorcycle Museum, Coventry Road, Bickenhill Solihull, West Midlands

Persons present

By Invitation
David Blackwell	Belzona
Mike Hodgson	John Martin Construction Ltd
Tom Shelley	Felixstowe Dock & Railway Co
Keith Bendall	Advanced Metals
David Somerville	CRP Group Ltd
Phillip Walsh	CRP Group Ltd

1. Apologies
Terry Dockerty	Allegheny Ludlum/Allvac SMP
Steve Shrive	Amerada Hess Ltd
Iona Witt	Babcock Engineering Services
Dr C M Fowler	Bodycote Materials
Phillip Deighton	Arnold Wragg Limited
J-P Pautasso	DGA/DSA
Chris Baxter	Avesta Sheffield
Bengt Wallén	Avesta Sheffield AB
Roger D Howard	BP International Ltd
Paul Badelek	BP Amoco Exploration
Tesh Kokoszka	BG Technology
Craig Donald	CorrOcean Ltd
Vin Callcut	Copper Development Association
Peter Felton	Cortest Laboratories Ltd
John Ray	Elf Exploration UK Plc
K Lawson	LR Integrity Management Ltd
Chris White	LR Integrity Management Ltd
D J Howarth	Lloyd's Register of Shipping
G P Campion	MacTaggart Scott & Co. Ltd
John Bird	MoD
Ian Bradley	OIS plc
Trevor Glover	The Titanium Information Group
A Nicholson	Tronic Limited
N I Cooper	VSEL
Len Phillips	Weir Pumps Ltd

2. Minutes of the previous meeting (18 January 2000)

3. Matters arising from the minutes

4. Membership/financial status

The financial figures for the period 1 January 2000 to 30 June 2000 are attached. The total income and expenditure for that period are £9,800 and £10,240.94 respectively, giving a deficit of £-440.94.

Keith Stokes (DERA) reminded the members present that the Subscriptions for the year 2000 were due, and that a number of them had yet to be paid.

5. Open forum

• Carol Powell (CDA) asked those present if they had any experience on the galvanic corrosion between graphite and other materials (Titanium, Stainless steel).

Roger Francis (Weirs) pointed out that problems had been caused by graphite containing gaskets in contact with titanium and duplex stainless steel. David K Peacock (Titanium Information Group) confirmed that galvanic corrosion occurred when graphite was in contact with titanium, but that there was little field experience to provide more information. Papers on the subject have been published by NACE. Keith Stokes (DERA) reported that the galvanic action between carbon fibre composites and NAB or high strength steel had been investigated by DERA and had been found to be significant.

• David Peacock (Titanium Information Group) informed those present that a paper had been published on the corrosion properties of Titanium 5111 in marine environments. MCC members who wish to read the paper can obtain a copy by contacting him at the following address:

  David Peacock
  The Titanium Information Group
  5 Barnsway Kings
  Langley
  Herts
  WD4 9PW

  Tel: 01923 269564

• John Fowler (Rolls Royce) asked those present for data on the erosion and cavitation resistance of composite materials. Keith Stokes (DERA) informed that some work had been carried out by DERA, but that he had to investigate the availability of the data.

• Keith Stokes (DERA) announced that at the October meeting, member companies will be invited to give a short introductory talk (~ 5 minutes per company member) to inform other members of their activities.

6. Any other business

• Keith Stokes, Chairman of the Marine Corrosion Club, expressed on behalf of himself, the Management Committee and Club Members, his sorrow at hearing the sad news of the death of Trevor Gooch. Trevor was a well respected and active member of the MCC who not only regularly presented and contributed to Club meetings but also played a major role on the Management Committee, latterly as the Vice Chairman. His unique character and acknowledged expertise in the field of welding and corrosion will be a tremendous loss to all those who knew and respected him.
• Keith Stokes (DERA), chairman of the Marine Corrosion Club, announced that the MCC secretariat had been successfully transferred from TWI to DERA
• David Coleman (NPL) informed those present that over the next 9 months, the Engineering Industries Directorate of the Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) will be preparing a new research programme entitled "Life Performance of Materials (LPM)". The programme seeks to underpin the competitiveness of UK industry through the development, application and dissemination of measurement methods for materials and follows on from the current "Degradation of Materials in Aggressive Environments (DME)" programme. The Department expects to fund at least £5 million of well-focused generic projects that meet the derived objectives. The new programme is likely to start in April 2001 and will last three and a half years.

  The National Physical Laboratory (NPL) will develop a programme of work addressing industrial problems related to aqueous corrosion and degradation at high temperatures. Their conclusions will be based on an in-depth understanding of the needs of industry developed over the coming months through a comprehensive industrial consultation exercise that delivers the technical and economic analysis needed to justify the work. Furthermore, a Technical Advisor will be appointed to conduct a similar exercise in all other possible programme areas and to input to the NPL project.

  All potential projects identified in the work will be subject to detailed analysis by DTI to ensure that they - contribute to the competitiveness of UK industry (particularly SMEs) in a number of sectors;

  - achieve results within three years and have quantifiable benefits;

  - provide generic test methods for widely used materials, which will ultimately be adopted by the international standards community;

  - attract experts from industry who are prepared to sit on 'Industrial Advisory Groups';

  - attract co-funding (including financial), at a level depending on the width of the benefiting audience and the industrial structure.

  Companies in any sector for whom in-service degradation is a driving issue are encouraged to contact NPL and participate in the programme definition.

  Beverley Aylett
  National Physical Laboratory
  Direct tel: 020 8943 6382
  Beverley.Aylett@npl.co.uk

7. Dates of next meetings

The next meetings will be held on the following dates:

11 October 2000
24 January 2001
3 April 2001 (Date to be confirmed)
4 July 2001
10 October 2001

8. Technical presentations

Coming to a Sheet Pile Near You… The Bug of the Millennium- A Wholly Practical Guide to Actual Holes,
Mike Hodgson (John Martin Construction Ltd) and Tom Shelley (Felixstowe Dock & Railway Co.).

High Pressure Air cylinders reducing through-life costs,
Ritchie Brown (BAESEMA).

The development and properties of 25%Cr superduplex stainless steel wirelines, strands and ropes,
Keith Bendall (Advanced Metals International Ltd).

The commercial use of corrosion resistant metals and their alloys subsea - a marine manufacturers perspective,
Phillip Walsh and David Somerville (CRP Marine).

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