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Minutes of the Annual General Meeting held on 23 January 2002 at Lloyd’s Register of Shipping, 71 Fenchurch Street, London.

 

  PERSONS PRESENT

Keith Stokes, Chairman – DSTL   Anne Neville – Heriot Watt  

Clive Tuck – Langley Alloys Divn., Meighs Ltd, Vice-Chairman

Bill Nimmo - NPL  
Chris Baxter – AvestaPolarit   Robin Oakley – QinetiQ  
Stuart Bond – TWI   Jan Olsson – AvestaPolarit  
Peter Cutler – NiDi   Valdir de Souza – Heriot Watt  
Phil Dent - Bodycote   Jean Tuck – MCC
Chris Fowler - Bodycote   Kevin Waterton - Capcis  
John Fowler – Rolls Royce   Peter Webster - CDA
Roger Francis - Weir Robert J K Wood – Southampton University  
Patrick Hall – MoD   J. Zhang - Lloyd’s Register  
David Howarth – Lloyds Register  
Manfred Jasner - KME By Invitation as speaker:
Eric Martin – John Brown Hydrocarbons Phil Jacques  - Oil States Industries

1.           APOLOGIES

Peter Felton – Sheffield Testing  Barry Torrance – Aish Technologies
George C Grim – for Shell Expro Gerry Francis  - John Brown Hydrocarbons  
Len Phillips – Weir Pumps Ltd Ian Penkethman - Stainless Steel Fasteners  
Philip Matthews – Brunton Shaw   Carol Powell  - CDA  
John Bower  - Flowserve   David Shaw – John Brown Hydrocarbons
Ian Bradley – OIS Jagath Mawella - MoD
Roddy James - CorrOcean   Wayne Pearce - Magnox Electric
Terry Parsons – Magnox Electric   Bill Inglis – Tungum (guest)  

2.      MINUTES OF LAST MEETING (24 January 2001)

These were accepted as a true record of that meeting.

 3. MATTERS ARISING FROM MINUTES

      None.

4.   CHAIRMAN’S REPORT

With the ending of this year, the Marine Corrosion Club has been in existence for 9 years following its reorganisation in 1992 and 13 years since its original inception in 1988.

This past year again saw a significant change within the MCC. Whereas last year we saw the departure of TWI as the secretariat, this year saw the departure of DERA in August, following the end of their contract. As before, invitations to tender for the Secretarial position were offered to the Club membership, which resulted in two close bids for the role, leading to the appointment of Dr Jean Tuck as the new Secretary. I would like to take this opportunity to thank both parties for their hard work and able support to the committee, the Club members and myself over the past year and extend my own thanks to include TWI for their support over my three years as Chairman.

During the year, I believe that the Club has continued to maintain its aim, which is:

To advance the practical, technical and scientific understanding of marine corrosion and related topics, by:-

·      Providing a forum for the exchange of information

·      Arranging presentations  and meetings on technical subjects

·      Disseminating information to members

·      Liasing with other organisations having similar objectives

These aims have been primarily achieved by arranging technical presentations on a quarterly basis, which not only informs members but also encourages technical discussion. Dissemination of information has also more recently been achieved through the Club’s own website, an area where much effort has been directed by the Committee, latterly by Stuart Bond and Jean Tuck.  Further, information has also been provided in the form of the Metadex searches, which are carried out twice a year and give an update of abstracts from papers, and publications related to marine corrosion. The discussion of technical issues is targeted via the “Open Forum” session at each regular meeting and via the Marine Corrosion Forum held in previous years.

Unfortunately our usual liaison with the Institute of Corrosion at our meeting in Aberdeen did not materialise in 2001 due to the demise of the local branch, although the MCC meeting did go ahead. It is to be hoped that meetings will again be held in conjunction with the Institute of Corrosion in the future. In addition to this, we held successful meetings at the Institute of Materials in January and October and at the National Motorcycle Museum in July. If alternative venues are considered appropriate, the committee would again welcome any suggestions.

As usual, the Management Committee have tried to make the presentations as diverse as possible. Consequently, during the past year, we have covered topics including erosion-corrosion resistant coatings, polymer coatings, copper-nickel alloys, maintenance of coatings below the waterline, calcareous deposits, materials for ship propellers, inspection methods in the offshore industry, hydrogen embrittlement, stainless steels and titanium alloys. I would like to thank those Club members who have presented and/or volunteered papers and encourage others not only to present work but also to continue to supply ideas for topics and speakers.

Unfortunately, for the first time since 1992, the Management Committee had to impose an increase in membership fees, primarily to cover the increase in Secretariat costs following the loss of the subsidised rate offered by TWI and the cost of hiring venues. Estimates associated with the Club for this year, however, have enabled the fee to remain unchanged, at £587.50, with a £50 discount for early payment.  As always, the Committee is looking at ways of increasing funds available to the Club to enable additional activities to be undertaken, and one area instigated for approval within the constitution is that of an “Overseas Membership” which will be open to companies that operate entirely outside the UK. The intention is to offer membership at a reduced rate, to include the opportunity of attending one meeting per year. Contact will be electronic wherever possible. A further way is to investigate using less costly meeting venues, a precedent first started today. Alternatives to the National Motorcycle Museum are also being investigated.

Membership has remained fairly constant during the year and stood at 34 at the end of 2001, all having paid their subscriptions.

Financial aspects will be discussed in greater detail during the Secretary’s report.

As mentioned, the Committee has been looking at ways to improve the website during the year. Accordingly, we have now introduced new links to member organisations and are looking to create reciprocal links to other sites such as the EFC, Institute of Marine Engineers and the Institute of Corrosion. We are also looking at allowing non-member companies to have links to the MCC website, but possibly at a cost of £150. Additionally, the core information collected for inclusion within the video has been transferred to the web, under the title “Marine Corrosion Explained”. Also Technical presentations have now been linked to the relevant Abstracts provided. Finally, there is still the intention to provide an online discussion/forum, but this will be dependent upon people submitting topics via the feedback form.  I am pleased to say that we are now achieving something like 70 to 80 hits per day, giving ~2400 visitors a month. As a result of the above actions we have now achieved our initial website objectives given at last years AGM.  We shall, of course, progressively continue to improve and develop the site.

The Management Committee is continuing to consider alternative approaches to pass information to members. The possibility of holding Marine Corrosion workshops, for example, has not been forgotten although it is felt that the economic climate precludes this approach at present. The situation will continue to be monitored, however and the possibility of participating in a joint Forum with other organisations remains viable. A development currently being addressed is the production of a 1 page flyer outlining the scope of the club which can be distributed by members at meetings, conferences, seminars, etc. Any suggestions are, as always, welcome.

Other possibilities include the compilation of corrosion data sheets, regular discussions on specific corrosion topics (proposed in advance) at the quarterly meetings, the setting up of research projects and sponsorship (e.g. of a PhD student).

During the year, the Management Committee has also been planning the programme for 2002. The next meeting will at the Hilton Hotel, in Aberdeen, on the 9th of April,  at the Novotel, Birmingham on 3 July and back at Lloyds Register for the meeting on 9 October 2002.  

Finally, I would like to take this opportunity to thank all the members of the Management Committee for their support, ideas and general hard work during my three years as Chairman. Further, I would like to extend my thanks to you, the members, for continuing to support the activities of the Marine Corrosion Club. I have enjoyed the privilege of being Chairman over the last 3 years, although I wish I could have played a more active role during this last year. The evolution of the DERA organisation, however, resulted in my taking up a new role within Dstl which prevented my attending all of the meetings. Along with my own departure, we also say farewell to several long-serving members of the management committee including Roger Francis, Peter Cutler, Ritchie Brown and David Peacock, all of whom have worked extremely hard on behalf of the Club. They will, I hope, continue to attend the meetings and provide us with the benefit of their collective knowledge.  

This concludes my final report and I would like to finish by giving the new Chairman and committee members my best wishes for the future.

5.      SECRETARIAT’S REPORT

·        The membership stands at 34, a decrease of 4 from 2000.  Three companies have resigned (Krupp Vdm UK, Arnold Wragg and Allegheny Ludlum), and there was a correction to the members’ list, which had wrongly identified Weir Materials Services and Weir Pumps as two separate companies.

·        The Secretariat started the year with DERA, which was privatised to become QinetiQ.  As this would lead to increased service charges to the club, tenders were invited, and Dr Jean Tuck took over the role.

·        The enclosed accounts show that membership income for the year was £18,598.75, which, with bank account interest of £264.08, gave total income of £18,862.83.  Total expenditure was £18,321.03.  This covered venue charges, web-site fees, and Secretariat costs and expenses, including the June Metadex charge.

This produced a small surplus of  £541.80, giving a fund balance of £16,661.01 at 31st December 2001.  This compares favourably with the 2000 deficit of £5320 plus outstanding charges of £2,360. 

Outstanding 2001 expenses are Secretariat costs for December (£375.83) and the December Metadex charge (not yet known, as it depends on the number of references found).  Secretariat costs this year are estimated at £9,000/annum, compared to the previous Secretariat rates of approx. £14,000/annum.

·        The Management Committee has decided to keep the 2002 subscription fees at the same level as 2001.  The fees are therefore £587.50, but with a £50 discount for those companies which pay promptly.

·        The main Secretariat duty in the latter part of 2001, has been in improving the club web-site.  On behalf of the committee, Stuart Bond has been responsible for reviewing the site and making recommendations.  These, and other suggestions, have been incorporated into the site.  Hopefully the site is now significantly more attractive and useful.  Several members have written to express their satisfaction at the improvements.  The average number of visits to the site vary between 77 per day for October and 45 per day for December.

It would be useful if members could keep a check on their company web-site, to ensure that any web-address changes are passed to the Secretariat to maintain links.  Further links are planned, and other suggestions are welcomed.  Current e-mail addresses will also help the Secretariat to keep members up-to-date with events.

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A list of forthcoming presentations was displayed for members, and will be circulated with these minutes.  The Novotel at Birmingham International Airport had been found to be a cheaper venue for the July meeting, and would be booked, if still available.

The Metadex search (June up to 31st December) had been delayed due to minor problems at the IoM who are our link.

6.      APPROVAL OF ACCOUNTS FOR 2001

  (See appendix).  The accounts were passed as correct.

 7.      ELECTION OF OFFICERS/COMMITTEE

There being only one nomination for each post, the meeting accepted the nominations of officers as:

Clive Tuck (Meighs) – Chairman

Stuart Bond (TWI) – Vice Chairman

Keith Stokes (DSTL) – Immediate Past Chairman

There were 8 nominations for members of the committee, for a maximum of 6 positions.  The representatives were asked to vote, and the following six members were elected:

Chris Baxter (AvestaPolarit)

Phil Dent (Bodycote)

Patrick Hall (MoD)

David Howarth (Lloyd’s Register)

Bill Nimmo (NPL)

Barry Torrance (Aish Technologies)

Thanks were given to all those who had been prepared to serve on the committee.

 8.      APPROVAL OF REVISED CONSTITUTION

A revised constitution was proposed, allowing overseas membership for those who cannot attend meetings, and honorary membership for those who have contributed to the field of marine corrosion.   With one typographical correction, the revised constitution was accepted by the meeting.

9.      OPEN FORUM

Stuart Bond proposed that ‘Historic Information – was a possible role for the Club’. 

Information on marine corrosion is often hidden away in obscure publications or is not applicable in some way, due to slight differences in material composition or testing conditions.  Two examples were given:

 1. The effect of oxygen concentration variation with ocean depth on corrosion rates.  In the 1960s the U.S. Navy noticed that the tethers of buoys in the deep Pacific were suffering from differential oxygen corrosion.  This information needs to be looked at again in consideration of deep oil installations (QinetiQ voiced the fact that they were aware of this work and are continuing investigations in the area). 

The effect of depth on calcareous deposit and its influence on corrosion and cathodic protection efficiency are two related topics which need investigation.  It was pointed out that these topics were discussed (and Anne Neville’s work presented) at the Marine Corrosion Club meeting at Aberdeen in 2001.

2.  Long term exposure data. ‘Long term’ used to mean around 25 years but it has come to be a lot shorter now, due to lack of resources and impatience for results.  The down side of this is that bodies such as ASME will not accept data unless it is well proven over a long period.  Organisations such as Le Que have a wealth of long term data but there should be caveats placed on it due to the particular conditions of the testing (e.g. seawater temperature).  The point was raised by Roger Francis that there can be legal implications of accepting and promoting particular data, thus one should be sure of its applicability. 

Stuart suggested that The Marine Corrosion Club could adopt a role of co-ordinating information on marine corrosion – initially splitting this into a list of topic areas, recommending texts, gathering information, and displaying applicable data (with caveats) on its website.

10.   ANY OTHER BUSINESS

None.

11.            DATES OF NEXT MEETINGS

The next meetings will be held on the following dates:

9 April 2002, Hilton Treetops Hotel, Aberdeen

3 July 2002, Novotel, Birmingham International Airport- proposed

9 October 2002, Lloyd’s Register, London

22 January 2003, London

8 April 2003, Hilton Treetops Hotel, Aberdeen

12.      TECHNICAL PRESENTATIONS  

(click below to view abstracts)

Barry Torrance (Aish Technologies) sent his apologies that, due to pressure of work, his presentation would have to be postponed.  Roger Francis provided the back-up presentation (below).   

12.1  ‘Development of Titanium/Steel Composite Risers’, Phil Jaques (Oil States Industries (UK) Ltd).  

12.2  ‘Stainless Steels for Marine Environments', Jan Olsson (AvestaPolarit Ltd.).

12.3 ‘Material Selection for Corrosion Prevention’, Roger Francis, (Weir Materials & Foundries Ltd).

The meeting was closed at 3.30pm.  


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