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Minutes of the Annual General Meeting held on 28 January 2015 at Lloyd's Register, London.

 

  PERSONS PRESENT

Committee

Gary Masters – E.ON Technologies (Ratcliffe) Ltd (Vice-Chairman)
Robin Jacob – CP Consultancy
Robin Oakley – QinetiQ
Clive Tuck – Lloyd’s Register EMEA
Brian Wyatt – Corrosion Control
Jean Tuck – Marine Corrosion Forum

Members & Guests

Richard Baily – Impalloy Ltd
Charlie Barraclough – Commtech Associates
John Baynham – CM BEASY
Danny Burkle - University of Leeds (guest speaker)
Geoff Camm – Deepwater EU Ltd
Kim Chua - Exova
Stuart Downie - Lloyd’s Register EMEA
Chris Eley – EDF Energy
William Farnell – Langley Alloys Ltd
Roger Francis – RF Materials
John Galsworthy – QinetiQ
Steve Goring – BAC Corrosion Control Ltd
Gage Griffiths-Paylor - Sheffield Hallam University (guest student)
Steve Hankins – Deepwater EU Ltd
Xiuqing Li – Heatric Ltd
Michael Lowden – Rolls-Royce plc
Qing Lu – TWI Ltd









Tom Lukey - Sheffield Hallam University (guest student)
Chris Lynch – Corrpro Companies Europe
Mike Moffat – Corrpro Companies Europe
Aneel Mumtaz – Cathelco Ltd
Trevor Osborne – ICorr Imm Past President/ Deepwater Corrosion Services (guest)
Shiladitya Paul - TWI
Richard Perkins – Aish Technologies Ltd
Jim Preston – Corrosion Prevention Ltd
Jan Przydatek – Lloyd’s Register EMEA
Marco Rapone – GE Oil & Gas Subsea Systems
Bernd Sagebiel – KME Germany GmbH & Co.AG
Tony Staines – Langley Alloys
Thomas Walsh – RWE npower (guest speaker)
Peter Webster – Copper Development Association
Gareth Williams – ECHA Microbiology

The Vice-Chairman, Gary Masters (E.ON), opened the meeting at 11:00 am.  

1        TECHNICAL PRESENTATIONS 

1.1 Corrosion Control of Offshore Wind Turbine Structures - specification, application and performance of coating systems’, Thomas Walsh, RWE npower

1.2 Cathodic Protection System Selection for Corrosion Mitigation inside Offshore Wind Turbine Monopiles’, Robin Jacob, CP Consultancy

2  The AGM was held next (see below), followed by:

3.    OPEN FORUM

3.1 Richard Baily (Impalloy) asked whether it would be an advantage to cast sacrificial anodes around superduplex stainless steel inserts to be able to offer an ‘improved’ product. This was thought to offer no advantage, as carbon steel, which is normally used for the insert material is not going to corrode due to sacrificial cathodic protection. Also, the fabrication practices for superduplex stainless steel are very much different to those of carbon steel, so there would be many problems with welding the anodes in place if superduplex stainless steel was used in this way.

3.2 Roger Francis (RF Materials) asked a question concerning the use of Al11%Si alloy in a flowing seawater application and whether there was a specific reason for using this material. The probable reason was suggested to be that Al11%Si alloy (and the Al-Si alloys generally) are readily castable. The Al11%Si alloy also has a microstructure containing very hard silicon particles which offer some resistance to erosion attack by seawater.

3.3 The recent much-publicised cracking of the bolts of the ‘Cheesegrater’ building in London was discussed. It was fairly certain that cause was lack of heat treatment after electro-galvanising, i.e. the cause was hydrogen embrittlement of high strength steel. One of the speakers (Thomas Walsh) had mentioned that fenders of offshore wind turbines had been fabricated from galvanised steel sections. He was asked if there had been any evidence of cracking of the galvanised steel due to welding as liquid metal embrittlement of steel by zinc at temperatures above 450°C was a reported phenomenon. The answer was negative.

3.4 MCF & ICorr Joint Committee on New Entrants to Corrosion: Report to and request for Guidance from MCF Meeting, presented by Brian Wyatt (Corrosion Control).

Background
• Joint Committee of MCF and ICorr formed mid 2014
• Objective is to increase numbers of New Entries into employment in corrosion related activities
• Members are Carol Powell, Robin Jacob and Phil Dent notionally for MCF and Bob Akid (Prof Manchester), Don Harrop (ex BP) and Brian Wyatt notionally for ICorr
• Committee has met twice in 2014
This presentation is to advise MCF Members of the progress to date and to seek your guidance

Problem
• A common expressed concern at MCF and ICorr meetings is where are the young Engineers and Scientists coming from? The same problem exists in bringing in new Technician grade personnel
• There are STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering and Maths) initiatives within Government and Education; but we think WE must do more
• School leavers with STEM interests are insufficient to fulfil demand for Apprenticeships (and only 3% entering Engineering are female)
• Teaching and careers expertise in schools is inadequate or inadequately informed to promote the benefits of Engineering, Science, Materials and Corrosion to students
• Insufficient school leavers enter STEM subjects at University
• Civitas, Russell group, CBI etc. are all aware and active but we should be more active ourselves to better secure the future of our industry
• This is NOT only a UK problem

Solutions
• MCF are already encouraging University students to attend our meetings….to improve awareness of staff and students in Universities of corrosion
• ICorr are in the 2ndyear of their Young Engineer Scheme to mentor young graduates working in engineering to increase their awareness and skills in corrosion and to encourage them into corrosion related careers
• Can MCF and ICorr together form a grouping with a source of funding (Members, CBI, CITB, Charitable Foundations) to form a ‘Corrosion Foundation’ to address ‘pinch points’ to improve entry over a decade?

What we think after 6 months
• We need a multi-level approach, Schools, Colleges, Universities, Employers
• We need to establish long term liaisons with Schools to support and inform Science and Careers teaching to promote STEM generally and materials and corrosion specifically
• Our industries need a School leaver entry into apprenticeships for Technicians to work in laboratories and in the field, with possible future routes to graduate level
• We need closer and more proactive liaisons with Universities to increase awareness of opportunities for employment in corrosion

What we know after 6 months
• We have collated a list of University departments with some corrosion activity.
• We have collated a (smaller and likely less complete) list of Colleges offering HNC to BSc materials courses that may be useful for apprenticeships
• We have collated a list of short courses with corrosion content
• We have initiated contact with a group of 11 schools with 11000 students, with whom we hope we can work

What we are planning
• Consideration of support package for NQTs in Science that would have materials and corrosion content whilst working within the established curriculum
• Collating information from large companies (JLR, GKN, BP, BAE, Babcock, QinetiQ) on their SUCCESSFUL strategies for attracting candidates
• Considering if smaller companies would be interested in, and would think it helpful, to have a collaborative approach to promote new entries into their Industrial sectors
• To continue the work with feedback from MCF and ICorr; hence today
• More active liaison from ICorr (and possibly MCF) into University departments aimed at both staff and student bodies
• Consideration of possible sources of funding to support some of these initiatives

What should we be planning?
• A compiled list of MCF and ICorr Companies seeking new Entrants?
• A compiled list of MCF and ICorr Companies offering or prepared to offer:
o Internships?
o 3 month, 6 month, 12 month placements?
o Apprenticeships
o Sponsorships
• Competitions and Prizes for Teachers, Pupils, Students, Lecturers?
• This initiative is appearing to identifying realistic and achievable actions that should increase the New Entries at Technician, Engineer and Scientist levels into our industry • For SUCCESS in these initiatives we will need commitment from a majority of MCF and ICorr Members and their COMPANIES. Be prepared to act!

What should YOU be planning?
• If you and your Company wish to benefit from these initiatives we will need YOUR support in carrying them out
• We will likely need volunteers to mentor schools, to partner with Colleges and University departments
• We will likely need Companies to offer industrial placements and possibly sponsorships
• Support for a UK Corrosion Foundation?
• DO YOU SUPPORT THIS INITIATIVE?
• DO YOU HAVE ANY IMPROVEMENTS?
• WHAT WILL YOU DO?

Trevor Osborne, Immediate Past President of ICorr then explained what ICorr was doing, and Robin Jacob (CP Consultancy) talked about links with two schools of which he is governor. There was then discussion of other ideas, including the production of a short video for use in schools, and liaising with the OU regarding an HND foundation course of relevance. The feeling of the meeting was that this initiative was worth continuing. The joint committee would therefore continue with this work and report back when there were more specific tasks with which the MCF and members could be involved.
[Pdf and PowerPoint copies of the above presentation are available from the Secretariat.]

4.  TECHNICAL PRESENTATIONS continued.  

4.1  Understanding Corrosion Protection by Formation of Iron Carbonate Films in CO2 Conditions’, Danny Burkle, University of Leeds

4.2 ‘CP and Structural Assessments of Aging Jetties - What Laid Beneath’, Chris Lynch, Corrpro Companies Europe

The main meeting closed at approximately 3.40pm

2  ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING:  

Present

Committee

Gary Masters – E.ON Technologies (Ratcliffe) Ltd (Vice-Chairman)
Robin Jacob – CP Consultancy
Robin Oakley – QinetiQ
Clive Tuck – Lloyd’s Register EMEA
Brian Wyatt – Corrosion Control
Jean Tuck – Marine Corrosion Forum

Members & Guests

Richard Baily – Impalloy Ltd
Charlie Barraclough – Commtech Associates
John Baynham – CM BEASY
Danny Burkle - University of Leeds (guest speaker)
Geoff Camm – Deepwater EU Ltd
Kim Chua - Exova
Stuart Downie - Lloyd’s Register EMEA
Chris Eley – EDF Energy
William Farnell – Langley Alloys Ltd
Roger Francis – RF Materials
John Galsworthy – QinetiQ
Steve Goring – BAC Corrosion Control Ltd
Steve Hankins – Deepwater EU Ltd
Xiuqing Li – Heatric Ltd
Michael Lowden – Rolls-Royce plc
Qing Lu – TWI Ltd









Chris Lynch – Corrpro Companies Europe
Mike Moffat – Corrpro Companies Europe
Aneel Mumtaz – Cathelco Ltd
Trevor Osborne – ICorr Imm Past President/ Deepwater Corrosion Services (guest)
Shiladitya Paul - TWI
Richard Perkins – Aish Technologies Ltd
Jim Preston – Corrosion Prevention Ltd
Jan Przydatek – Lloyd’s Register EMEA
Marco Rapone – GE Oil & Gas Subsea Systems
Bernd Sagebiel – KME Germany GmbH & Co.AG
Tony Staines – Langley Alloys
Thomas Walsh – RWE npower (guest speaker)
Peter Webster – Copper Development Association
Gareth Williams – ECHA Microbiology

2.1 APOLOGIES

Henrik Andresen – Shell UK Ltd
Andrew Bell - Babcock
Richard Dawson – Lloyd’s Register EMEA
Phil Dent – Exova (Chairman)
Ross Fielding – Impalloy Ltd
Dean Haley – MoD
Graham Hill – ECHA Microbiology
David Hillis – Total E& P UK Ltd
Christos Kapsalis – KME Germany GmbH & Co. AG
Steve McCoy – Special Metals
Andrew MacDonald – Lloyd’s Register EMEA

Helen Peterson - MoD
Carol Powell – CDA/NI (Committee)
Ivan Richardson – Copper Alloys
Jon Smith – EDF Energy
Keith Stokes - DSTL
Pat Stokes - MACAW Engineering (Committee)
Ben Turner – Copper Alloys Ltd
Geoff Warburton – NeoNickel
Mike Wilson – BAE Systems

2.2      MINUTES OF LAST ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING (22 January 2014)

Acceptance was proposed by Robin Oakley (QinetiQ), seconded by Clive Tuck (LR) and were then accepted as a true record of the meeting..  

2.3.   MATTERS ARISING FROM MINUTES

      None.

2.4.   ELECTION OF OFFICERS/COMMITTEE  

The current committee is Phil Dent – Exova (Chairman), Gary Masters – E.ON (Vice-Chairman), Robin Jacob – CP Consultancy, Robin Oakley – QinetiQ, Carol Powell – CDA/NI, Pat Stokes – MACAW Engineering, Clive Tuck – Lloyd’s Register EMEA and Brian Wyatt – Corrosion Control. There being no new nominations the committee stays the same.

2.5.   CHAIRMAN’S REPORT

I am sorry that I cannot be with you today to join the meeting and deliver my report in person.

The MCF is now in its 27th year and is still providing a valuable forum for the presentation and discussion on topics relating to marine corrosion and wet corrosion issues. The format of the meetings invites open discussion and allows the presentation of up to date research and news on corrosion issues without the often long delays associated with more formal presentations at conferences.

Our membership currently stands at 37 companies and organisations ranging from sole trader ‘consultants’ to Global businesses and Government bodies and I believe this is a great strength of the MCF, since there are no real barriers to participation. In addition our members interests cover a broad range including oil & gas, power generation, material supply, equipment manufacture, shipping, cathodic protection, consultancy and certification.

In the four meetings we have maintained a high standard of presentations so I would like to thank all the contributors over the past year for sharing their knowledge. We have continued our policy to invite keynote speakers to the forum and have welcomed Lisbeth Hilbert from Force Technology in Denmark and Nicolas Larché from Institut de la Corrosion in France. In addition to our two keynote presentations we had a further overseas guest at the October meeting when Felipe Morales from Endures (TNO) in the Netherlands gave an informative talk on Microbiologically Influenced Corrosion in Offshore Environments. We are continuing our policy to pay for the expenses of keynote speakers in the future to maintain the high technical standard of presentations at our meetings.

The open forum sessions in the meetings have been well supported at all of our meetings and provide an opportunity for informal discussion and valuable input from experts in the corrosion field.

We presently have an enthusiastic and dedicated committee and I would like to thank my vice-chair Gary all the members for their valued contribution in providing speakers and presentations and for supporting the work of the forum. We still have places on the committee and we would welcome the addition of new members.

Finally I would like to thank Jean on behalf of Gary and the committee for her very efficient work in keeping the administration and accounts in such good order and for ensuring the MCF runs so smoothly. It certainly makes the work of the chair and the committee so much easier.

2.6.      SECRETARIAT’S REPORT    

At the end of 2014 the membership stood at 37. CJ Wiretech and the University of Southampton did not renew, but we gained Corrosion Prevention. A list of members will be sent out with the January mailing. This is also available to members on request at any time.

The end of year accounts were detailed for members.  Copies are sent to members with the printed or pdf minutes. 

From 2008 until 2014 the Membership Rates have remained unchanged. After much discussion, and an awareness of the current state of the oil and gas industries, the Management Committee still feel that the time has come to make a small increase. So for 2015 the rates will rise by approx. 2.3%.. The Full membership fees, which were £655, will become £670, but still with a £100 discount for those companies that pay by 1st May 2015. Overseas membership and Sole Trader membership, which was £410, will be £420 with a similar £100 reduction for prompt payment. Overseas payments not in sterling will incur a charge of £50 to cover our bank costs.

A facility for payment by credit card remains possible, but there is a small charge for this to cover the costs to MCF of making the credit card transaction. This facility continues to be important to those who choose to use it, and has thus been retained, though several companies prefer to use bank transfers.

For those who are late renewing their membership, the cut-off date is the end of June, with reminders sent, but no further mailings without subscription renewal.

The pdf booklets of member company Laboratory Facilities and for member-company Consultancies are still on our website and will shortly be circulated for updating as usual. Any other member company wishing to participate in these should make a request to the Secretariat. When companies contact the Secretariat requiring technical advice these two web-based documents provide a useful reference point to which enquirers can be directed.

CPD certificates are available at meetings, and we have been pleased to have the continued recognition of IMarEST, IoM3 and ICorr. Applications for the IoM3 have to be made for each meeting, and then we submit details of the meeting to be put on their website, giving us extra publicity. Our agreement with IMarEST ends this year and we will be seeking to renew this.

The MCF’s own website still offers a useful contact point. Links on the website enable requests for further information or for an invitation to an MCF meeting. The News page gives details of conferences and other items likely to be of interest to members. Further items are always welcomed.

The Metadex literature search results continue to be very popular and the electronic format enables recipients to search for specific words. It is unusual to have this facility for a group of companies to use, instead of a single company, and we pay not only by the number of items included, but also by the number of copies that we order. We now offer up to three copies per member-company, if three names have been given to us as contacts.

As you will hear later in the meeting, the committee have been concerned about the low number of people joining professions relevant to marine corrosion. A survey amongst members showed that this was fairly universal. One way of addressing this has been the decision to offer four free places to students for each meeting, and again we have two students with us today. This offer has been publicised on our website, facebook, linkedin and twitter, and by sending letters and e-mails to relevant university staff. So far the take-up has been low, so any specific names of staff or students for us to contact would be welcomed.

2.8    ANY OTHER BUSINESS

The Chairman reminded the meeting that a full year’s Technical Programme requires 17 high quality presentations. The committee would welcome any offers and ideas for future presentations.

2.9.      DATES OF NEXT MEETINGS

21 April 2015, Palm Court Hotel, Aberdeen

8 July 2015, National Motorcycle Museum, Birmingham

21 October 2015, Lloyd’s Register, London

January 2016, AGM, London – date subject to venue

 

The AGM was then closed and the Open Forum session opened.


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