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Minutes of the General Meeting held on 14th October 2009 at Lloyd’s Register, 71 Fenchurch Street, London.

  PERSONS PRESENT:

Committee
Robin Oakley (Chairman) - QinetiQ
Phil Dent (Vice-Chairman) – Exova
Ben Hooker - Babcock
Robin Jacob - Corrosion Consultancy
Matthew Peet – CAPCIS
Barry Torrance – Aish Technologies
Clive Tuck – Lloyd’s Register
Julian Wharton – University of Southampton
Jean Tuck – MCF Secretariat

Members & Guests
Michael Adkin - Cathelco
Tom Bailey – Ports & Harbors Magazine (guest)
Andrew Bell – BAE Systems Submarines
Philip Blood – Langley Alloys
Sean Glasgow – Nereus Ventures Ltd (guest)
Dennis Greaves - UWS, MoD
Ian Hamilton – Aker Solutions

    
Clive Harrington – Deepwater Corrosion Services Inc (guest)
John Hay – University of Surrey (guest)
Edward Hill - ECHA Microbiology Ltd (guest)
Richard Holt – Subspection (guest)
Dean Horspool – Exova/University of Birmingham
Barry Lamb – BAC Corrosion Control Ltd
Jing Li – Clyde Pumps
Chi Lee - TWI
Christos Kapsalis – KME Germany AG & Co KG
Craig McCormick – Clyde Pumps
Graham Muff – A&E Systems (guest)
Aneel Mumtaz - Cathelco
Gary Masters – E.ON Engineering Ltd
Richard Perkins – Aish Technologies
Carol Powell – CDA
Bernd Sagebiel – KME Germany AG & Co KG
Brian Slater – BAC Corrosion Control Ltd
Keith Stokes – DSTL
Jian-Zhong Zhang – Lloyd’s Register

APOLOGIES  

       Charlie Barraclough – Commtech Associates
Andrew Bell – Babcock
Peter Cutler – NI
Richard Edwards - CCSL
John Fowler – Rolls Royce
Roger Francis – RA Materials
Darren Reid-Hutchings – British Energy



The meeting was opened by the Chairman, Robin Oakley

 1.      TECHNICAL PRESENTATIONS (part 1):

1.1 ‘Galvanic Corrosion Performance of High Strength Copper-nickel Alloys in Seawater’, Julian Wharton, University of Southampton   

1.2 ‘Novel Treatment of Accelerated Low Water Corrosion on Harbour Structures’, Barry Lamb, BAC Corrosion Control Ltd  

2.      OPEN FORUM.  

2.1       Gary Masters (E.ON Engineering Ltd) asked about corrosion protection specifications for offshore wind turbines; PELAMIS Wave Energy Converter.  He would like contact with others.  TWI is looking at this area.  Carol Powell (CDA) said that the European Federation of Corrosion was trying to get together a marine corrosion booklet for engineers who don’t have the correct background knowledge.  NACE and the oil and gas industries are also interested in this.  Publication will be next year. 

2.2             Stanley Nwaonu (Impalloy) sent a question on how to overcome skills shortages and improve knowledge transfer in the industry.  It was suggested that universities feel the solution lies with them, but it could be said that knowledge based on real experience, for example quality control concepts, could usefully be transferred back to universities.  Transfer should therefore be a two-way process.  Intellectual property and copyright issues are problems however.  It was mentioned that in Wales there is sponsorship to enable transfer of knowledge to SMEs, though the problem with intellectual property still exists. 

2.3       Ted Hill (ECHA Microbiology Ltd) raised an issue regarding MIC:  “In most of the world, fatty acid methyl esters (FAME) are a mandated addition to automotive diesel, and they are finding their way into marine diesel and aviation kerosene.  We have tested many hundreds of samples of automotive biodiesel from blenders, distributors and retailers in our microbiology lab and find, not surprisingly, that not only is microbial growth prolific but also that the types of microbe have significantly changed.  It is possible that this will also change the type and incidence of MIC associated with these fuels, as water bottom pH, oxygen gradients, metabolic products etc will all be different.  Perhaps MCF members could be alert to this and report back to MCF any practical consequences they encounter.

We are currently researching consequences of FAME contamination of aviation kerosene and first paper is in press at the IASH meeting, Prague Oct 2009.”

3   MCF NEWS   

q  The Chairman explained that there would be slots for 2 or 3 short (about 10 minute) talks from members at the January 2010 meeting, as recent AGMs were not taking up very much time.  Anyone wishing to offer a short presentation in January should contact him, or the Secretariat.  He also asked for volunteers for presentations generally, as the full programme for 2010 was currently being arranged. 

q     The next meeting would be the AGM in January.  All those on the committee were happy to serve another year.  The constitution allows for two more committee members if required.  Should anyone wish to volunteer or nominate for these positions again please contact the Secretariat.   

q     CPD certificates would be available from the Secretariat as usual, following the meeting. 

4.    TECHNICAL PRESENTATIONS  (part 2):

4.1  ‘Corrosion in Seawater Cooling Systems’, Clive Tuck, Lloyd’s Register EMEA


4.2 ‘Development of Corrosion Fatigue Testing in Sour Oilfield Environments’, Dean Horspool, Exova/University of Birmingham 

The Chairman closed the meeting at approx. 3:40 pm


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